Pioneer AppRadio 4 vs Alpine iLX-007

Alpine iLX-007 installed in dash

Pioneer AppRadio 4 vs Alpine iLX-007

I’m pretty psyched about both of these two new models from Pioneer and Alpine.  It’s about time Pioneer ramped up their audio section in their AppRadio.  It’s nice to see they’ve finally included higher fidelity features into the new AppRadio 4 such as three 4 volt RCA preouts and a 13 band EQ.  I never understood the logic, “Well if they want apps on their radio, they obviously don’t care about system expansion or sound quality.”  The additional sound quality features and user friendly interface are a welcome change to the AppRadio series.

Pioneer App Radio 4 model SPH-DA120
Pioneer App Radio 4 model SPH-DA120

I can’t wait to test out the new iLX-007.  I think the last really exciting thing Alpine did was figure out a way to interface Pandora radio into their car stereos (Side note – the digital output on their INE-W957HD is pretty cool too, but not a lot of people take advantage of that feature or even know it exists).  Check out Alpine’s new CarPlay deck, looks pretty slick, right?

Alpine iLX-007 installed in dash
Alpine iLX-007 installed in dash

I’m writing this post now, because I anticipate both Pioneer’s AppRadio 4 and Alpine’s iLX-007 will become hot sellers during the upcoming holiday season.  Consumers are going want to know, which is the better CarPlay deck?  The AppRadio 4 of the iLX-007?

I decided to put together a feature comparison chart to best compare these two models.  This way, I’ll be ready to explain the pro’s and con’s of each when the busy shopping season arrives (Might sound silly, but seriously – the holiday season is right around the corner).

Compare the features and benefits of the Pioneer AppRadio 4 vs the Alpine iLX-007

Pioneer AppRadio 4
Alpine iLX-007
Pioneer AppRadio 4 SPH-DA120
Pioneer AppRadio 4 SPH-DA120
Alpine iLX-007 installed in dash
Alpine iLX-007 installed in dash
Display
Screen Size6.2"7"
Customizable5 Display Colors, 112-Key Colors, 13-Background, Splash ScreenN/A
Audio Section
RCA Preouts3 pre outs (4V)3 preouts (2V)
EQ13 BandBasic 2 band, unless using Alpine Tune It App then 9 band EQ
CrossoverYes - HPF & LPF
Adjustable from 50 Hz- 200 Hz
Slope adjustment -6 dB/oct to -18 dB/oct.
Using Alpine Tune It App - HPF & LPF
Adjustable from 20 - 200 Hz
Slope adjustment 0 to -12 dB/oct.
Time AlignmentYesYes - through Alpine Tune It App only
Source & Expansion Options
BluetoothYesPhone Connection Required via USB to Lightning
USBDual Rear USB Ports1 Rear USB Port
Rear Aux inYesYes
Satellite RadioNo - N/ANo - N/A
HDMI inputYesNo
CD/DVDNo - MechlessNo - Mechless
AM/FM TunerYesYes
Reverse Camera InputYesYes
Phone App Integration
CarPlay CompatibleYes - iPhone 5 & upYes - iPhone 5 & up
AppRadio Mode for iPhone 4/4sYes - Requires CD-IU201SNo
AppRadio Mode for iPhone 5 & upYes - Requires CD-IH202, Apple Lightning to Digital AV Adapter & Apple Lightning to USB CableNo
AppRadio Mode for AndroidYes - Requires CD-AH200, compatible with select Android Devices.No

Pioneer Announces New CarPlay AppRadio 4

Pioneer App Radio 4 model SPH-DA120
Pioneer App Radio 4 features CarPlay, three 4 volt preouts, 13 band EQ and more.
Pioneer AppRadio 4 features CarPlay, three 4 volt preouts, 13 band EQ and more.

AppRadio 4 aka SPH-DA120 ready to roll out

UPDATE – 10/24/14 – Full length AppRadio 4 review here.

Estimated read time: 1 minute 10 seconds.  Want to read later?

Pioneer has announced that it has started shipping the all new AppRadio 4, model number SPH-DA120, to its dealers and distributors.  The AppRadio 4 is also CarPlay compatible.

It’s nice to see there has been a pretty big improvement in sound quality features in the new AppRadio 4.  Things like equalization control and high voltage pre outs were always lacking in previous AppRadio models.

The new AppRadio 4 features a 13 band EQ, 4 volt pre outs and time alignment.  It appears to share the same graphic user interface as the current NEX models.  The NEX line has proven to be sound quality oriented as well as user friendly.

App Radio 4 SPH-DA120
AppRadio 4 SPH-DA120 – NEX style user interface

New features of the AppRadio 4 include:

  • 6.2″ capacitive touch screen
  • HDMI input
  • Bluetooth
  • Apple CarPlay (for iPhone 5 or later)
  • App Radio Mode for iPhone (4s and up – typical App Radio Mode accessories required, see connectivity notes)
  • App Radio Mode for Android (typical App Radio Mode for Android accessories required, see connectivity notes)
  • Dual rear USB Port
  • 3 preouts rated at 4 volts
  • 13 Band EQ
  • Digital time alignment
  • Siri
  • Google Voice
  • AM/FM Tuner

AppRadio Mode Connectivity Kit

Depending on what device you have, you will still need an additional connectivity kit.  Pioneer lists the same accessories that were applicable to previous App Radio models.

To access AppRadio Mode, iPhone 5 users will still need a CD-IH202, Apple Lightning to USB and Apple Digital A/V Adapter).  Android users will need a CD-AH200.  iPhone 4/4s users can use a CD-IU201S.  The Apple CarPlay feature requires no additional parts, simply connect to the USB using a standard USB to lightning cable.  Keep in mind, you will not be able to easily utilize CarPlay and AppRadio Mode at the same time as each use different style connections and both connect to the USB 1 port.

Shop AppRadio 4 now.

Pioneer App Radio 4 model SPH-DA120
Pioneer AppRadio 4 model SPH-DA120

Where have I been?

Trying to figure out what Pioneer iPod cable I need nowadays….Seriously, have you seen this cross reference chart?

Pioneer iPod cable Cross Reference Chart
What iPod cable do I need for my Pioneer head unit??
What iPod cable do I need for my Pioneer head unit?

All joking aside

Apple really did throw a curve ball for a lot of companies by changing to the new lightning port.  I really do have to reference this chart quite often to figure out exactly what iPod cable I need for what Pioneer head unit I’m selling depending on what device I’m hooking up and for what purpose.  So for everyone out there wondering what friggin iPod cable they need for their Pioneer head unit, check out that chart!

As far as the lapse in posts, responses, etc. – Business has been demanding and my intentions for this blog had to go on the back burner.  Eventually, I realized my goal of trying to help answer everyone’s questions was a pretty unrealistic goal.  I really wish I could help everyone out there.  I wish there was enough time to answer every question emailed or posted and return every phone call I receive at the shop from readers, but in reality, it’s just not possible.  I really appreciate everyone reaching out for my expertise, but my time is limited on this earth.  My loyalty and priority has to be with my local customers who support my business and make this blog even a possibility.

No doubt I will continue to make posts about new products which are finally hitting the market (CES 2013?  Yeah, totally missed that – didn’t even get to read about!  Sad, but true).  You will also see more posts highlighting the various and unique installs we do at our shop on a daily basis.  Check back soon for new product reviews and installation showcases.

Coming up next, the Alpine PXA-H800 processor vs the Audison Bit One.  John just finished installing one and I have yet to take a listen to it.  Has Alpine finally produced a processor close to what their F#1 status equipment could achieve?  I’ll find out and post about it soon enough.  In the mean time, for all you nostalgic car audio collectors out there, I happen to be selling our store’s Alpine F#1 Status DVI-9990 head unit and PXI-H990 DSP processor on eBay, you can bid on that or just check it out here.

 

Best Double Din Car Stereo Head units for 2012

Best Double Din Car Stereos

Looking for the best double din car stereo head unit for your car?

Every customer is unique and their needs are all very different. My customers come into my shop looking for double din head units for a variety of reasons. They often feel that double din car stereos:

  • Have a cleaner look, fit and finish
  • Are easier to use thanks to a nice large touch screen
  • Have attractive features like Bluetooth handsfree, Bluetooth audio streaming, USB, Aux, Nav capabilities, DVD playback, App integration, easy iPod integration, large bright controls, customizable displays and more.

Update – To read about the best double din head unit for 2014 – Click Here

So what makes one double din head unit better than another?

Simply put, the answer is features. For the purposes of familiarity, I will focus on the models that I sell in my store so that I can give you honest, tried and true information as if you were with me in my showroom. First up, Pioneer.

The Pioneer AVH-P2400BT is a nice entry level, but full featured, double din head unit.
The Pioneer AVH-P2400BT is a nice entry level, but full featured, double din head unit.

 

So what do you get for your money with the Pioneer AVH-P2400BT? Quite a bit actually.

This head unit is a great option for people looking for a nice large touch screen that will make it easy to access the music in their iPod/iPhone or other USB based MP3 player. It also has Bluetooth Audio streaming. So if you have an Android, Blackberry, iPhone or other smart phone you can pair your phone to the stereo and wirelessly stream music from your cell phone to the stereo. This is a great feature if you like to listen to a lot of music apps.

I often suggest to customers to use their cell phone apps for things like their favorite radio stations that may not come in clear in the area that they drive in. Using a cell phone app, you can listen to virtually any radio station in the world! As long as you have cell coverage, you will have 100 percent clear sound quality. Imagine that. No static on your favorite AM talk radio station. Of course you would need a smart phone, a pretty good data plan and good cell service for this to work.

With Pioneer’s CD-IU51V  iPod cable, you can use your iPhone for advanced apps. Enjoy Pandora radio on your iPhone? Simply use this optional cable and connect it to the front USB/Aux on the stereo and connect your iPhone. Then launch Pandora from your iPhone. Your stations and all artist and song title information will appear on screen along with a thumbs up and thumbs down icon. Full Pandora radio control from your iPhone on screen! How cool is that?

Additional cool features include a backup camera input, it’s satellite radio ready (although who really needs that if you have a smart phone), an 8 Band equalizer and 3 preouts (2 volt). This stereo also has a wired remote input for steering wheel control integration and a wireless remote control.

One additional cost to be aware of with all Pioneer double din head units is that they do not come with a mounting sleeve or trim ring. Most installation kits will not require this, but some cars will and this is an additional cost. If your vehicle requires a mounting sleeve and trim ring, you will need to buy the ADT-VA133 in addition to any installation kit, wiring harness or antenna adapter.

Who is this stereo NOT for?

For anyone looking to build a high fidelity audio system. The low voltage on the RCA preouts will effect your sound quality should you ever decide to add additional amplifiers. If you are planning on upgrading speakers, adding and amplifier and/or subwoofer. Check out the Pioneer AVH-P4400BH or the Kenwood DDX419.

Pioneer's AVH-P4400BH gives you a nice large easy to use touch screen
Pioneer’s AVH-P4400BH gives you a nice large easy to use touch screen

 

So what does the Pioneer AVH-P4400BH offer?

Additional features over the AVH-P2400BT include:

  • A larger touch screen 7″ vs 5.8″
  • The screen is also motorized and offers 5 different viewing angles.
  • Higher voltage preouts 4 Volt over 2 Volt
  • Build in HD Radio
  • Rear USB (cleaner look, no cables dangling from the front of the stereo)

Not a fan of Pioneer? Check out Kenwood’s DDX419 for a nice double din car stereo head unit.

 

Kenwood's DDX419 is a great option for a Double Din Car Stereo
Kenwood’s DDX419 is a great option for a Double Din Car Stereo

 

So what does the Kenwood DDX419 have to offer?

For one, they look awesome in European cars. Check out the matte black finish. The Pioneer’s have a shiny black. The illumination options also really capture the Red, Blue and Amber lighting of the European cars very well.

  • 6.1″ touch screen (entry level Pioneer had a 5.8″)
  • Bluetooth handsfree and audio streaming
  • 4 Volt preouts (good for aftermarket amps!)
  • Front USB/Aux
  • App mode with Pandora control for iPhone, launch any audio/video app from your iPhone and hear and view playback with the including Garmin Stree Pilot App with optional KCA-ip22F
  • SiriusXM Ready
  • Back up camera input
  • Wired remote input for steering wheel remote integration
  • Multicolor illumination
  • Volume Knob (as opposed to Volume Rocker with Pioneer)
  • Comes with mounting sleeve and trim ring
  • 3 Band EQ (Pioneer had an 8 band)

So for the cash this will set you back (if you were to also purchase the app integration iPhone cable), you get a LOT of features for the money. Remember, this head unit comes with the mounting sleeve and trim ring. The entry level Pioneer had a more advanced EQ, but a lower voltage preout. When you add in the trim ring, mounting sleeve and App cable with the entry level Pioneer, you’d be spending about the same amount of money.

So the DDX419 gives you a few features over the AVH-P2400BT

  • Higher voltage preouts
  • A volume knob
  • Larger screen

Going for the latest and greatest in cool features? Then you have to check out Pioneer’s AVH-P8400BH.

 

Pioneer's AVH-P8400BH offers Mixtrax and Advanced App Mode
Pioneer’s AVH-P8400BH offers MIXTRAX and Advanced App Mode

 

MIXTRAX was all the rave at the Pioneer booth during CES2012. What the hell is MIXTRAX? Besides being a great excuse for Pioneer’s CES organizers to hire a hot girl in short shorts and give her her very own DJ stage to entertain CES attendees and Pioneer employees, I’m not really sure who MIXTRAX would appeal to and why they would want it. You don’t get the cute girl in the short shorts when you buy the AVH-P8400BH and I certainly don’t think it will attract any cute girls in short shorts volunteering to be your own personal DJ while you drive around town listening to your car stereo.

It’s kind of like Pandora in that you tell it that you like what it’s playing and it will continue to search your music to play music with similar beats per minute. I think you can even select the beats per minute and it will find songs that match. It’s definitely geared towards customers that are into the club scene. According to Pioneer’s website:

“MIXTRAX is an innovative Pioneer technology that creates a non-stop mix of your music library complete with a range of DJ-inspired effects. Drawing from Pioneer’s rich DJ heritage with our passion for music, MIXTRAX delivers a unique DJ infused listening experience to listeners in the car. MIXTRAX takes the music from an iPod, iPhone, or USB device and plays it back with added transitions and effects, creating a virtual DJ inside the AVH-P8400BH.

MIXTRAX works by first having the MIXTRAX PC software automatically analyze a track’s BPM, bar, beat position, vocal position and mood, then adds the analyzed data to the music file. The AVH-P8400BH reads the embedded MIXTRAX data from your audio device as you enjoy precise, full featured non-stop mixes in your vehicle complete with album art that dances to the beat! You can also experience MIXTRAX as an app for the iPhone 4/4S or iPod Touch (4th Gen) and using Advanced App Mode to control the MIXTRAX app through the receiver’s touchscreen display.”

So, yeah, it’s a cool feature. Worth the additional cost? Probably not. The advanced app mode however probably is worth it.

Advanced app mode on the Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

Using the optional CD-IU201S iPod/iPhone cable you can essentially turn your double din head unit into a double din navigation unit. The advanced app mode is advanced control over select apps like MotionX GPS Drive, INRIX traffic, Rdio, and hopefully many more as developers turn out more apps.

The major difference with the preceding models app mode is the control feature. With the AVH-P4400 and the AVH-P2400BT you are launching the app from your iPhone and still controlling and entering information on your iPhone. Whatever your iPhone is doing is then reflected on screen and the audio is heard throughout the speakers in your car. Advanced mode means you’ll actually be able to control the navigation (using a specific app such as Motion X GPS).

Once you add in the additional cost of the advanced app mode cable (and don’t forget your mounting sleeve and trim ring if you need it), this stereo ends up costing quite a bit more for just a few features. That’s just my opinion anyways. I don’t ever go anywhere where I really need GPS and I don’t listen to the type of music you would hear playing in a club. For customers that own an iPhone and can appreciate the GPS app feature (or for those that listen to a lot of dance, dub step, house, etc.) it’s probably well worth it to spend the extra dough.

Now that you know what your choices are and what each model has to offer, it’s up to you to weigh what features are most important and decide what is the best double din car stereo for YOU.

Need more help making your decision? Please make a comment or email me with any questions. I’ll do my best to guide you in the exact same personalized manner that I do with my customers at my shop every day.

Thinking about getting a double din with navigation? Check out the Best Double Din Navigation section here.

Best new car stereo head units for 2012

New full featured Alpine single Din head unit unveiled at CES 2012

Update – Looking for the best car stereo head units for 2014?  Check out my latest review for best single din car stereo head units for 2014 here.

Looking for the best car stereo head units available this year?  Look no further.  The Car Stereo Chick will show you her top 3 picks for single din head units in 2012.  At my store, I carry Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer.  I feel these are extremely strong brands in car audio and provide consumers with a great mix of features, sound quality and reliability.

Best Single Din Head Unit from Alpine for 2012

By far, the CDE-HD138BT will be my number one selling single din head unit from Alpine this year.

Buy the CDE-HD138BT on sale!

It’s packed with features every consumer will benefit from:

  • 3 preouts, 4 Volt rating
  • 5 or 7 Band Parametric EQ adjustable per source (Media Xpander Pro)
  • Built in crossovers
  • SiriusXM ready
  • Built in Bluetooth
  • Bluetooth Audio Streaming
  • Bluetooth Plus for easier phone pairing, text message alert for select devices, call waiting functionality and Android & Blackberry Pandora control through Bluetooth Audio connection
  • iPhone Pandora control through USB connection
  • Built in HD Radio with iTunes tagging
  • Steering wheel control ready
  • Front USB/Aux
  • Optional passenger iPod control mode

For customers that demand great features, excellent sound quality and ease of use, I always recommend Alpine.  So what is this head unit missing?

  • Multicolor illumination.  Your choice is either blue or blue.
  • Front only USB.  Not everyone has a nice little storage pocket above or below their stereo for their iPod or iPhone.
  • Lacks digital time alignment.

So your only color option is blue and your USB connection is only through the front of the stereo.  What features are more important to you?  Ease of use, price and pretty colors are often determining factors for my customers.  I’ll tell you the same thing I tell my customers: don’t feel bad about being picky on color choice.  Seriously, you’re the one that has to look it every time you drive your car.

Thinking about buying the CDE-HD138BT online?  Buy from an authorized reseller!  Don’t get duped by rock bottom prices.  Alpine has a strict dealer agreement that every authorized reseller has to sign, including dealers like me.  Part of this agreement is we agree not to advertise their products below the minimum advertised price.  Did you find this head unit priced way below that mark?  Guess what.  It’s not legit, which means as far as Alpine is concerned they’ve never heard of you, the retailer or the warranty that you claim you have.  Only authorized resellers can guarantee you’re receiving A-stock product backed by the manufacturer’s warranty.

So what if you want all that and pretty colors?

Check out Kenwood’s Excelon KDC-X996. Not only does the KDC-X996 add variable color illumination, it also adds some pretty advanced audio control features.

The KDC-X996 from Kenwood Excelon is on sale now!
  • 3 preouts, 4 Volt rating
  • 13 Band Parametric EQ adjustable per source
  • Built in crossovers adjustable slope settings 0, 6, 12, 18 or 24 DB per octave adjustable individually for Front, Rear, Sub and Tweeter
  • Digital time alignment for Front, Rear and Sub
  • Cabin selection and speaker size selection for additional audio customization
  • SiriusXM ready
  • Built in Bluetooth
  • Bluetooth Audio Streaming
  • Android & Blackberry Pandora control through Bluetooth connection
  • iPhone Pandora control through USB connection
  • Android Music Control via USB with Kenwood’s Music Control app
  • Built in HD Radio with iTunes tagging
  • Steering wheel control ready
  • Rear USB/Aux
  • Variable Illumination
  • Optional passenger iPod control mode
If you know how to use an iPod Classic you can figure out how to use the KDC-X996

So what’s the catch?  Well, for some people, Kenwood stereos can be difficult to use.  I feel that if you have an iPod and if you’re comfortable using an iPod, then you will be able to figure out the controls on this deck.  They’re set up very similar to an iPod Classic.

You have a center select button.  Your volume knob circles around the selection button and then you have your track up and down buttons to the sides, and your menu button on top and play button below.  Look familiar?

I’ve always been a huge fan of the advanced audio control features that Kenwood Excelon head units have.  Many of these features are not well explained either by the person/website trying to sell you it or by the manufacturer themselves.  Take for example, the wonderful feature of time alignment.  You may be wondering, what the hell is time alignment and why do I need it?

Time alignment is freaking awesome.  Basically, when you’re sitting in your car, typically the left speaker is going to hit your ears first.  Then the next closest speaker, like the rear driver’s side.  Next is usually the front passenger speaker and last is probably the passenger side rear speaker.  You might not have realized it up until this point, but the slight delay in when the sound waves actually reach your ears greatly effects your sound stage and your overall listening experience.

Digital time alignment allows you to digitally delay the closest speakers so that every speaker reaches your ears at the same time. It’s awesome.  When set up properly, you can sit in the driver’s seat, close your eyes (not while driving) and you will NOT be able to pinpoint where the music is coming from.  It will envelop and surround you creating a truly sublime listening experience.

Digital time alignment is freaking awesome. Sound travels slowly.  This is why you need it.

Other awesome audio tuning features include advanced crossover settings.  Sometimes when doing a full audio system with aftermarket amplifiers, I prefer to use the crossover adjustments within the Kenwood over the crossovers on the amp.  They’re that good quality and fully adjustable with 6/12/18/24 DB per octave adjustments separate for Front, Rear, Sub and Tweeter.  And don’t forget the 13 band EQ.  The KDC-X996 has massive amounts of audio tuning capability.  On the flip side, if you have no clue what you are doing you can make it sound really, really, really bad.  So choose wisely.

What about Pioneer?

Pioneer is generally well known for their successful line of AVIC GPS head units, maybe not so much for their single din options, but this year, they’ve stepped up their game.

Meet the DEH-80PRS.  Pioneer calls it Audiophile Grade.  They’re comparing it to their Stage 4 head unit which features a 31 band EQ and copper chassis.  The Stage 4 head unit also sells for around $1200.  At just $349.95, the DEH-P80RS is presumably a bargain.

Pioneer’s new Audiophile Grade Head Unit

Check out some of the great features:

  • 24 Bit Burr Brown DAC
  • A-hem, correction, THREE 24 Bit Burr Brown DAC’s.  One for high, mid and low frequencies.
  • 3 preouts, 5 Volt
  • Built in crossovers adjustable slope settings 0, 6, 12, 18 or 24 DB per octave adjustable individually for Front, Rear, Sub and Tweeter
  • Auto time alignment and Auto EQ
  • Manual time alignment mode
  • 16 band EQ adjustable for left and right channels
  • Front Aux
  • Dual Rear USB
  • Built in Bluetooth
  • Bluetooth audio streaming
  • iPhone Pandora Control
  • Variable color illumination
  • Steering wheel remote ready

When compared to the competition, this head unit leaves me wanting a little bit more for my money.  It’s not satellite radio ready and it does not come with HD Radio.  However, it does have a nice display and a nice heavy volume knob.  At least the prototype I saw at CES had one.  As far as ease of use goes?  Personally I think Pioneer single din head units are often the more difficult of the bunch.  But it does have 3 DAC’s.

Let’s forget features, who has the best sounding single din head unit for 2012?

Based on the specs, I assume the Pioneer will have superior detail and clarity over the Kenwood and Alpine, but the true test will have to wait until all three have shipped and are on display at our store.  Should you believe the Pioneer hype?  I don’t know, we’ll see (or should I say hear) soon!

Update. The verdict is in! Check it out here.

Pioneer AVICX940BT revealed at CES 2012 with Q & A by the Car Stereo Chick

Yesterday I had a chance to meet with Harry from Pioneer at their booth during CES 2012.  Here is the interview I did with him.  I asked him tough questions about Pioneer’s questionable design/layout choices as well as gained some insight into what kind of consumer product testing Pioneer goes through before releasing a new model to the market.  A big thanks goes out to my husband John, for his wonderful camera work.  Thanks babe, I couldn’t have done it without you.

The all new Pioneer AVIC-X940BT with advanced App mode


Car Stereo Chick checks out new Pioneer App radio and AVIC navigations for 2012 at CES

New Pioneer App Radio Revelead at CES 2012 interfaces with Android

The floors at CES today were filled with an incredible energy that I haven’t seen in years past.  The crowds were overwhelming, but full of excitement.  There was a vibrant energy and an eagerness that was palpable; you couldn’t help, but feel it.  As I arrived I found myself in the midst of the action and began riding that wave of eagerness and anticipation.  One of the vendors I couldn’t wait to visit was Pioneer.

Their AVIC navigation units have always been our most popular seller at our store, but as much as it appealed to customers, there was always something lacking that seemed to nag them.  “It’s a great unit”, they’d tell me, “but it could have been so much better.”  Still, they always found it better than the competitors offerings.

The new Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH

Earlier today I had a chance to speak with Harry from Pioneer.  He was kind enough to walk us through the new App radios and AVIC navigation units that Pioneer will be releasing in 2012.  He also took the time to listen to, and respond to, our very valid gripes with their innovative products.  Who knows? Maybe they’ll take notice of our suggestions?  We’ll have to wait until CES 2013 to find out.

As far as the AVIC units go, here’s a little teaser. I’ll have the full introduction posted up shortly. Enjoy!